催眠師的安全性? - 催眠治療
By Edwina
at 2012-08-09T02:01
at 2012-08-09T02:01
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一直都滿想體驗催眠的
但是網路上搜尋的到的或是大一點的就真的是有安全性的嗎?
要怎麼去判定呢?找人陪同嗎?
因為催眠其實拿來做壞事好像可以做到很壞欸
順帶還有自我催眠的可行性@@?
因為想要治療失眠和減輕病痛的壓力
但又非常的害怕
最後想詢問推薦入門的書籍 謝謝:)
※ 編輯: awu150060 來自: 123.193.249.33 (08/09 02:16)
但是網路上搜尋的到的或是大一點的就真的是有安全性的嗎?
要怎麼去判定呢?找人陪同嗎?
因為催眠其實拿來做壞事好像可以做到很壞欸
順帶還有自我催眠的可行性@@?
因為想要治療失眠和減輕病痛的壓力
但又非常的害怕
最後想詢問推薦入門的書籍 謝謝:)
※ 編輯: awu150060 來自: 123.193.249.33 (08/09 02:16)
推 nneekkoo:這麼剛好 你問的問題上面幾個文章都有回答到了~~~~~ 08/09 07:56
→ awu150060:我重看C大的文了 不好意思之前是隨意瀏覽的看完文章 08/09 12:38
→ awu150060:那我想要請教一下 怎麼去判定自己需要的是催眠還是精神 08/09 12:38
→ awu150060:科醫生,是症狀程度的區分還是只是療法不同呢? 08/09 12:39
推 nneekkoo:這要看你的需求 精神醫學上在治療or探索個案時才會使用 08/09 19:07
→ nneekkoo:至於怎麼判定...也許你可以在這裡and精神疾病版說明情況 08/09 19:14
→ nneekkoo:請板友幫忙判斷~~ 08/09 19:14
→ awu150060:最近主要狀況是失眠 因為我連吃安眠藥還是會晚上醒來 08/13 05:50
→ awu150060:並沒有藥物成癮的問題 就是希望能自己在該睡覺的時間睡 08/13 05:50
→ awu150060:我都會在10~12點告訴自己很想睡 但是躺很久睡不著... 08/13 05:51
→ awu150060:不然就是睡到一兩點醒來 一直到四五點才能入睡~"~ 08/13 05:52
→ awu150060:可能是之前做畢業製作長期生活不正常 之後就調不回來 08/13 05:53
推 thismy:失眠的問題,催眠肯定勝過看醫生吃安眠藥了啊 08/13 09:01
推 thismy:催眠還能指定你在幾點時,會有睏意出現而想睡覺,然後睡著. 08/13 09:07
推 thismy:至於催眠做壞事不容易喲.催眠是要雙方同意的情況下才能進行 08/13 09:09
推 thismy:節目上的催眠秀,那些明星都有被過濾過的...但明星不知道.. 08/13 09:09
推 thismy:催眠師在螢幕前,肯定有跟明星接觸過,哪怕是聊天... 08/13 09:10
推 thismy:然後通過一些測試選出 較易接受催眠的人.... 08/13 09:11
推 thismy:催眠師若能隨便就催眠一個人,那他早就發財了,哪可能... 08/13 09:11
推 jojolovetata:婦產科有就醫被姦淫案例,催眠國內外,有案例否? 08/13 10:47
推 thismy:那是人在做壞事,跟婦產沒有關係。 08/13 11:19
推 thismy:感冒要看醫生嗎?醫生也可以下藥或拿刀殺你啊。看是不看? 08/13 11:20
→ keithking:催眠這種工具和金錢一樣是中性的,沒有善心之分,不應該 08/13 12:00
→ keithking:用少數人心險惡將這種工具用在錯誤地方的人將催眠污名化 08/13 12:01
→ keithking:上面打錯字,是「沒有善惡之分」。 08/13 12:01
推 jojolovetata:也就是說..有這種事情囉? (看病也是有護士在旁的) 08/13 16:43
→ jojolovetata:不然..那天..錢包送給人..也是不清不楚.. 08/13 16:43
→ jojolovetata:另外,沒什麼污名化問題,如t版所說..醫生也可以這樣的 08/13 16:45
→ keithking:我自己是沒聽過有使用催眠治療法為惡的醫生,也沒聽過這 08/13 16:54
→ keithking:種案例,如果j版友有聽過這種案例的話,還請分享出來, 08/13 16:55
→ keithking:讓大家能夠汲取經驗,小心為上。 08/13 16:55
推 thismy:jojo版友目前的職業是那種無法做壞事的職業? 08/13 18:45
推 thismy:我想也不可能啦~難不成有一種職業是綁住雙手雙腳,無法殺人? 08/13 18:46
推 thismy:也許卡車司機吧~~~~啊,不對,卡車司機也能撞人..糟 失業了 08/13 18:48
推 apple2081:醫生確實可以為惡,而且很惡劣的,不乏少數呢~ 08/13 19:08
→ apple2081:不用是密醫,看新聞報導的都還是小事,要小心.. 08/13 19:09
→ apple2081:請問版大是什麼職業? 醫生嗎..看不出來呢~ 08/13 19:10
→ apple2081:另外,催眠師要慎選,不良的催眠師做什麼手腳你不清楚.. 08/13 19:11
→ apple2081:對於一個"醫療"行為的東西,衛生署應該提出一個合理的辦 08/13 19:11
→ apple2081:法來規範它,例如..執業醫師的道德品格要求 (最基本的) 08/13 19:12
→ apple2081:再者,催眠場所的要求,如消防法規檢定.. 08/13 19:13
→ apple2081:執業中的攝像設備,這是最重要的,先不說j大所說的那事 08/13 19:14
→ apple2081:想想看吧,t大所說的事,你無法要求一個"爛人"執業醫師 08/13 19:15
→ apple2081:那麼..由政府機關來"檢視"你的存在~ 08/13 19:16
→ apple2081:是否相對較為合理? 08/13 19:16
→ apple2081:OK..跳過以上論點,我們回頭再來看看..何謂醫師? 08/13 19:17
→ apple2081:一個好的醫師除了學歷.證照外,能夠讓你看見它的"專業" 08/13 19:17
→ apple2081:還有什麼是我們一般民眾可以有需求可供依循的呢? 08/13 19:18
→ apple2081:道德! 08/13 19:19
→ apple2081:對..就是道德! 道德這東西就如k說那樣,有的話請分享~ 08/13 19:20
→ apple2081:那麼..我們現在在這里的討論,算不算上是一種"分享"呢? 08/13 19:20
→ apple2081:汲取經驗,小心為上,本來就是這樣..就國內來說,催眠普遍 08/13 19:21
→ apple2081:不如國外那般成熟 (普及率),還沒看到壞的事例前,能不能 08/13 19:22
→ apple2081:討論法規規範與道德良知相關議題? (有待國內衛生署努力) 08/13 19:22
→ apple2081:最後..請大家記住一點,一個好的醫師,不會去傷害病人~ 08/13 19:23
→ apple2081:爛的醫師,除了要你的錢之外,其它什麼都不是了~~ 08/13 19:23
→ apple2081:嚴格說來,這種不叫醫師,連"密醫"都不如,因為它叫"神棍" 08/13 19:24
→ apple2081:對了,回覆j大,t大不會是醫師才對的,請放心~ 08/13 19:26
→ apple2081:至於你的失業,請努力!雖說醫生窮的一堆,好命不能當飯吃 08/13 19:26
→ apple2081:加油,好嗎 ^^ (哇哈哈...) 08/13 19:27
→ apple2081:Ps:你有精神疾病嗎,不然..怎麼一堆"醫師"這麼說你呢? 08/13 19:28
→ apple2081:該吃藥要吃藥啊..如果不需吃藥..那些醫生肯定是"密醫"呢 08/13 19:29
→ apple2081:你說..是不? ^^ 08/13 19:29
→ keithking:推樓上。 08/13 19:51
推 jojolovetata:很奇怪,人為什麼要將"沒發生"的事,算到自己頭上呢? 08/13 21:05
→ jojolovetata:是啊,以前我確實很{藍色}怎麼樣,原來有病是可恥的? 08/13 21:07
→ jojolovetata:一個醫生看病人,會不會覺得病人得病很可恥,那怕Aids 08/13 21:08
→ jojolovetata:知道我表達什麼意思嗎? 08/13 21:08
→ jojolovetata:再說吧,以前我看了身心內科的權威 {沈},每個醫生見他 08/13 21:09
→ jojolovetata:面,個個點頭鞠躬{德高望重?}問題是..我現在不需吃藥 08/13 21:10
→ jojolovetata:並不是拜權威之賜啊.. 08/13 21:10
→ jojolovetata:我..非常尊重醫生,當然..前提他是個醫生 ^^a 08/13 21:11
→ jojolovetata:再來,失業很可恥嗎?工作是為了什麼,說好聽的犧牲奉獻 08/13 21:12
→ jojolovetata:外,更實際點的應該是為了 討生活??? 08/13 21:13
→ jojolovetata:當我努力工作時,別人睡大覺的時候,現在就算失業了? 08/13 21:14
→ jojolovetata:別人幫我操什麼心? 看看自己幾根毛好嗎..?? 08/13 21:14
→ jojolovetata:或許你覺得別人很可恥,有病又沒工作,對社會沒貢獻? 08/13 21:15
→ jojolovetata:這應該也不是能在文字上表述出來給人看的,不能告? 08/13 21:16
→ jojolovetata:對啊..有病還要人工作,不矛盾? 08/13 21:17
→ jojolovetata:沒病不工作,你管人? <-- 是不是這樣說的? 08/13 21:17
→ jojolovetata:所以啦,我就不過在這里問個醫學問題而已..! 08/13 21:18
推 keithking:對不起,老實說我看不懂你想表達的意思是什麼 @@ 08/13 21:18
→ jojolovetata:問看看,被精神操作者,被催眠者,是否有可能被性侵而已 08/13 21:19
→ jojolovetata:這樣有那麼大的罪嗎? 需要這樣諷刺我,失業什麼的? 08/13 21:19
→ jojolovetata:你有性侵過人嗎,執業時;我相信是沒有的啦.. 08/13 21:20
推 keithking:我並不太清楚您所謂的「精神操作」指的是什麼,不過被催 08/13 21:21
→ jojolovetata:因為我根本不相信你是個醫生,如果真的是的話.. 08/13 21:21
→ keithking:眠者並不是進入沉睡狀態,因此並不像下藥一樣可能被性侵 08/13 21:22
→ jojolovetata:如果你真是醫生,麻煩西斯麥公佈一下你的醫療場所.. 08/13 21:22
→ jojolovetata:好嗎? 08/13 21:22
→ jojolovetata:不是只有ptt 是公開場合,整個網上都是啊.. 08/13 21:22
推 thismy:keithking大中肯之極,催眠若能隨便操縱人,催眠師早發財了 08/13 21:33
推 thismy:催眠總統讓位給他,催眠郭台銘割讓家產,催眠美女貼身.... 08/13 21:35
推 ilanese:《中華民國刑法》第221條: 08/13 22:33
→ ilanese:對於男女以強暴、脅迫、恐嚇、催眠術或其他違反其意願之方 08/13 22:33
→ ilanese:法而為性交者,處三年以上十年以下有期徒刑。 08/13 22:34
→ ilanese:前項之未遂犯罰之。 08/13 22:34
→ ilanese:其中催眠術這個字眼,大概民國24年就有了…… 08/13 22:34
→ ilanese:「催眠術」在這條法律條文裡一直到現在仍然沒有被改過,但 08/13 22:35
→ ilanese:實際上有沒有人曾經因此被判刑過,得找找才行~~ 08/13 22:36
→ keithking:催眠郭台銘:「你是我爸,你是我爸~~~~」 XDDD 08/13 23:23
推 thismy:k 大,你是我哥吧..... 08/13 23:28
→ keithking:XDDDD 什麼啦 08/13 23:31
推 thismy:我要跟你結拜不行喔..... 08/13 23:39
→ keithking:可以啊 XDDDDD 08/13 23:45
推 thismy:你幾年次... 08/13 23:53
推 keithking:75 啾咪。 08/13 23:56
推 thismy:那你要叫我大哥... 08/13 23:58
→ keithking:西斯麥大哥有什麼吩咐? 08/14 00:01
推 thismy:沒什麼吩咐,11月來台灣與你在行天宮燒香結義..... 08/14 00:06
→ keithking:歡迎。 08/14 00:10
→ awu150060:不是可以要求催眠者忘記嗎之類的 我之前就是想問有沒有 08/14 04:36
→ awu150060:像醫院那樣的正式場所這樣@@ 08/14 04:37
→ awu150060:因為我在電視看到類似的表演 是外國的 路人被瞬間催眠下 08/14 04:38
→ awu150060:暗示看到氣球然後把錢提出來丟到垃圾桶 然後本人事後不 08/14 04:39
→ awu150060:知情 雖然我覺得是表演成分居多 但是還是覺得滿令人擔心 08/14 04:40
→ awu150060:還有關於"怕鬼"這個催眠(上面T大文的結尾) 因為最近有開 08/14 04:41
→ awu150060:始接觸靈學這一塊 這樣會互相矛盾嗎@A@ 可是目前看到的 08/14 04:42
→ awu150060:資料似乎不牴觸 但老實說我還不完全能理出這之間的定位 08/14 04:46
推 thismy:忘記東西的部份,是要當事人愿意才能忘記喔。 08/14 09:46
推 thismy:比如,忘記某個數字的部份,事先說好是testing,他就愿意。 08/14 09:47
推 thismy:「今天你當家」的節目中,小鐘也被催眠過,那是催眠討厭錢. 08/14 09:48
推 thismy:由於已說好是一種測驗,小鐘愿意配合去想像,所以有效。 08/14 09:49
推 thismy:但今天如果有人要催眠小鐘討厭,他肯定不愿意,絕對失敗。 08/14 09:49
推 thismy:不過,有人會放大絕,萬一催眠師騙你測驗,然後不解開呢? 08/14 09:51
推 thismy:但過程中你是清醒的,催眠師讓你忘記某個東西,然後被挨告? 08/14 09:53
推 thismy:就像去唱歌有人說會被服務生下藥..去買雞排吃又怕被下毒... 08/14 09:56
推 thismy:真有人要害你 那就跟職業無關了。想害人 什麼職業都能害人. 08/14 09:57
推 thismy:不過怕鬼的那段,我是看不懂喔..... 08/14 09:57
推 jojolovetata:i大說的是,法律早制定的話,那代表不是不能做到.. 08/14 10:56
→ jojolovetata:就算推拿師傅都有猥褻例子發生,從事醫療行為時,憑良 08/14 10:58
→ jojolovetata:心去規範的話,那..民眾的"人身安全"未免太沒有保障 08/14 10:58
→ jojolovetata:所以建議女性朋友之類,如果類似這類場所,千萬帶友人 08/14 11:00
→ jojolovetata:一同前往,一生只要遇到這類雜碎一次,身心受創極大呢~ 08/14 11:01
→ jojolovetata:所以嘛,催眠版不就是討論這些事嗎,技巧再好的前提是 08/14 11:02
→ jojolovetata:什麼,就是醫德;醫德規範不如法律明文制定,沒錯吧.. 08/14 11:03
→ jojolovetata:大地震發生海嘯的日本,有沒有醫療人員棄行動不便病患 08/14 11:04
→ jojolovetata:而去的;同等道理,當你將身心交給醫生的同時,發生火災 08/14 11:06
→ jojolovetata:了,你不要認為"每個"醫生都一定叫你"起床"再一同離開 08/14 11:06
→ jojolovetata:在台灣越來越普及的同時,中醫領域之外,該規範的就得 08/14 11:07
→ jojolovetata:經法律程序制定它 08/14 11:08
→ jojolovetata:而不是只有規範中.西醫,事實上..這類心靈操作更需謹 08/14 11:09
→ jojolovetata:慎,而不是上個課就好像懂多少,甚至想幫人的.. 08/14 11:10
推 jojolovetata:看看語氣心態就了解什麼程度啦.. 08/14 11:12
→ keithking:不過,我認為催眠治療法的推廣與教育,基本上同其他專業 08/14 11:17
→ keithking:領域一樣,鮮少是由專家、學者或執業人士大力推動普及知 08/14 11:17
→ keithking:識與教育的,要讓正確的催眠治療法以及應當小心注意的細 08/14 11:17
→ keithking:節廣為大眾所知,還是得靠有興趣研究並且小有心得的業餘 08/14 11:18
→ keithking:先進,在自律的前提下提供給社會大眾正確的知識與資訊, 08/14 11:18
→ keithking:才能夠真正避免j大所擔心的,某些醫生不具醫德的情況發 08/14 11:19
→ keithking:生。 08/14 11:19
→ keithking:這也是為什麼這樣的一個版有必要存在的原因。 08/14 11:19
推 jojolovetata:是的.. 08/14 11:29
→ jojolovetata:但我要刻意強調一些點,不是對人而是對事.. 08/14 11:30
→ jojolovetata:如果催眠可以代替麻醉進行拔牙,其它可能"負面"發生的 08/14 11:31
→ jojolovetata:尤其人性相關,就該有保護措施存在 (攝像頭) 08/14 11:32
→ keithking:關於這點,我只能說,懂得保護自己的人總是有辦法確保自 08/14 11:32
→ keithking:己的安全,不懂得保護自己的,不需要遇到無良催眠師,那 08/14 11:33
→ keithking:種江湖術士與神棍之類都可以把不懂得保護自己的人騙得死 08/14 11:33
→ keithking:死的。 08/14 11:33
推 thismy:若不懂保護自己,去ktv、去pub 都要出事的 (家教都出事啦) 08/14 11:38
推 thismy:真要遇上壞人,下藥就好了,任何服務業都有辦法做到這點.. 08/14 11:40
→ ilanese:催眠術以前在西方是被歸納為玄學之類、類似超能力的東西。 08/14 13:21
→ ilanese:後來才被學術界所承認…… 08/14 13:21
推 jojolovetata:推一下樓上.. 08/14 16:56
推 keithking:心理學也是啊…佛洛依德學派剛起時,也是差不多光景。 08/14 17:01
→ awu150060:T大文結尾>>如:怕鬼 (完全是被電視催眠了)...... 08/14 22:52
→ awu150060:我看起來感覺是不認同靈學這塊的感覺 08/14 22:53
→ awu150060:因為催眠可以看到前世不是嗎@@? 我之前有看到書本有證實 08/14 22:54
推 keithking:所謂催眠所看到的前世很有可能是回復記憶中的虛假記憶效 08/14 23:26
→ keithking:果,即是因為催眠師的錯誤暗示,使得受催眠者產生了根本 08/14 23:26
→ keithking:不存在的記憶。 08/14 23:26
→ awu150060:總覺得再討論下去就離題了XD 但是之前看過驗證的文章啦 08/16 02:36
推 thismy:原po ,你看不懂什麼是感覺不認同靈學這塊耶 08/16 02:37
推 thismy: 我 08/16 02:38
→ awu150060:我只是覺得上網搜尋 催眠的網站都會含有看前世、靈氣、 08/16 02:38
推 thismy:那跟不認同靈學有什麼關係..你是說你不認同嗎? 08/16 02:38
→ awu150060:還有看命什麼很多服務項目= =...催眠師十八般武藝的感覺 08/16 02:39
→ awu150060:哦哦 因為那句我看起來的感覺>> 沒有鬼 大家是被催眠所 08/16 02:40
→ keithking:心理學中的催眠治療法沒有那些玄妙靈異的功能。(無誤 08/16 02:40
→ awu150060:以才覺得有鬼 進而怕鬼 (我自己是信這一塊的啦 08/16 02:41
推 thismy:我是指怕鬼。有鬼,但我不怕。可你們怕........ 08/16 02:41
推 thismy:電視把鬼弄得可怕,一定會害人、殺人、報仇等等 哪有這樣的 08/16 02:42
→ awu150060:只是服務項目好像總是會扯在一起 所以才會提出疑問 08/16 02:42
→ awu150060:哦哦哦原來!!!這樣我就懂了XDDD 謝謝耐心替我解答:D 08/16 02:42
推 thismy:催眠的那些算命的、天堂遊歷的、看元辰宮的....關於這個 08/16 02:42
推 thismy:其實是.............................................假的 08/16 02:44
→ awu150060:XDDD 所以可以靠這過濾假催眠師嘛!? 08/16 02:45
→ awu150060:還是也算心理治療一種? 安慰作用之類的= = 08/16 02:45
推 thismy:不是,而是那些催眠師(有些還上電視) 他們都不知是假的... 08/16 02:45
推 thismy:我是靈學板板主 你去soul 版看我寫的一篇 催眠與前世回溯 08/16 02:46
推 thismy:我怕我轉過來,會被催眠界的人 轟炸... 08/16 02:46
推 thismy:不過,假歸假啦,效果還是有... (因為當事人以為是真的) 08/16 02:47
→ awu150060:竟然有靈學版!!(速去) 而且竟然是雙版主XDD 酷! 08/16 02:49
→ keithking: 三 08/16 02:49
推 thismy:錯了 是四版 本來六版的,辭了兩版。 08/16 02:52
→ awu150060:=口=~~ 看來我還不夠宅沒有發現(已經M滿3面我的最愛了.. 08/16 02:52
推 keithking:西斯麥,能者多勞。(蓋章 08/16 02:54
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